Curse

Fitz Rinley · Apr 19, 2009, 08:59 PM // 20:59

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Originally Posted by cthulhu reborn

But I did not say that everybody needs to speak English or something like that. Where you came up with that I do not know, but it's not what I posted.

Je n'ai pas dit que vous avez fait. Vous avez dit:

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I am Dutch and my gaming language is English.

Noms anglais sur un serveur anglais. Nous, les américains, sommes multilingues, multiculturels et n'avons aucune langue nationale encore. Il y a 20 langues que 200,000 ou plus personnes parlent dans mon pays. Notre héritage est chaque héritage. Nous sommes les réfugiés de tout le monde. Si nous disons l'américain seulement sur les serveurs américains, donc nous nions l'héritage mondial. Nous devons dire, "Non". Nous devons dire, "Tolérez ce qui distingue de vous. Tolérez ce qui a de la valeur et le bon sens à d'autres. Tolérez leur droit d'exprimer le sacré, le politique, la personnelle, le culturel." Nous devons le dire non seulement parce qu'il y a seulement un serveur pour notre continent, mais aussi parce que la paix viendra seulement de cette tolérance. Si nous ne tolérons pas le différent dans nos jeux, nous ne tolérerons jamais de nos âmes le différent dans nos vies.

(C'est beaucoup d'années depuis que j'étudie le français. Pardonnez s'il vous plaît mes fautes.)

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Originally Posted by Translation

English names on an English server. We, the Americans, are multilingual, multicultural and have no national language yet. There are 20 languages that 200,000 or more persons speak in my country. Our heritage is every heritage. We are the refugees of all the world. If we say only American on the American servers, then we denounce our world heritage. We must say, No. We must say, "Tolerate what is different from yourselves. Tolerate what has of the value and meaning to others. Tolerate their right to express the sacred, political, the personal, the cultural." We must say this not only because there is only one server on our continent, but also because peace will come only from this tolerance. If we do not tolerate the different in our games, we shall never tolerate out of our souls the different in our lives.

LowOiL · Apr 19, 2009, 09:00 PM // 21:00

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Originally Posted by FalconDance

As for the rest of it, there is a chat filter. On "Normal", it filters out quite a bit - even from Anet's naming conventions! ..... There are two other levels of filter available, Maximum and None. Maximum bleeps out most everything, even references within sentences that have no ulterior naughty meaning (much like the Normal) and None, well, you get it all in its dubious glory.

Some people get caught up in the game and don't stop and think about cursing and such that others might be offended. Some people are just plain vulgar and coarse; the worst of those folks are called attention RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOs. If one of the folks who suffers a very bad case of potty mouth is in your district and doesn't want to see reason (I've been in districts of outposts wherein a person was unbelievably crude - just because he could be - and no amount of other ppl telling him to stop worked), then report that person and put them on your Ignore List. Believe it or not, once on your Ignore, you will never see a word they "say" again.

And some people simply refuse to use their chat filter. If you refuse to use the filter, then why? Because you think you shouldn't have to? Maybe not, but Anet installed that little feature knowing that human nature would present itself on several levels. It is a tool, a much more easily wieldable tool than an all-out ban hammer. And a tool under each player's control. Fancy that.

Umm.. been playing 3+ years (5000 hours), 12 characters on my main account.... 11 have all campaigns completed... 1 level 17 in pre....2 spare accounts for storage... Yes, I know what a chat filter is... The Block list is useless because of it's small capacity limit. You (and I) have been here long enough to know what you ask is just a joke. My guild is comprised of mostly mature family members, most of which have children that are impressionable. I don't feel I should have to treat my gaming experience like a closet porn show, but it is that bad 90% of the time in most major outposts/towns. Kids/Perverts know how to phonic their way around filters and do so with glee. Again you have been around long enough to have seen it.

Clean it up please Regina (pretty please).... My kids behave with the utmost respect to others, cause they know what happens when they don't. It is just that simple, put the ban stick out there and within days you will have jerks knowing that there is a price to pay.

I am tired of the spoiled jerks ruining the game. I am tired of having to leave the game chat off (including trade) except when I want to trade. It lowers the quality of my gaming to miss special deals because of jerks that need a knot in their tail and tongues that need to know the taste of soap.

I tire of filling my head of vulgarities when I open the chat channel, cause I feel it slowly poisons the people that have to read it day in and day out. I tire of folks telling me that a chat filter is all I need and I tire being told to turn off chat and lower my gaming experience.

Vulgar folks ruin the game for lots of people, and IMHO... it lowers the profit of companies that lose potential customers because lots of folks just don't even bother with putting up with it and never play online games again.

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Originally Posted by Fitz Rinley

I think you will find that the vast majority of the names using really inappropriate language are not from adults. However, while you castigate others for not being as perfect as Jesus and yourself, maybe you can talk Him into a quicker rapture. Afterall, no one who is so in touch with the absolute perfection should risk their perfect average down here with us merely common people.

And if you didn't want to live with the content of a Teen rated game, you should have stayed with something safe like Purble Palace.

I guess you think people just roll over and play dead for you after that spew... Think again, I don't go down without a fair fight.

I won't get into your rant against religious folks, because for one it is totally off subject and two it doesn't belong here. Besides you can't get any more common than yours truly, but I ain't so low you can just stomp all over my views with that angle. Odd I think common folks are quite the opposite as you betray them, they abhor the trash language. It is the elite that think it is a right to just spew sewer talk like rain across the field.

/end rant

Master Fuhon · Apr 19, 2009, 09:20 PM // 21:20

I came across this conclusion based upon discussion in another thread. Philosophically, the only way you can be aware of evil is to have evil within yourself. So all systems based upon victims reporting criminals for their behavior are flawed. Upon coming to awareness of a particular criminal act, a person weighs the proportion of good and evil within himself to decide whether he intends to commit the specific crime.

If you have what can be considered a completely innocent victim, the victim would have had no awareness of such a crime until awareness of the crime has been introduced. The act of witnessing the crime would not be understood as a crime. The act of having the crime committed against oneself would not even be enough. What this means is that when you rely on the players to self-report crimes, no one understands crime better than the criminal. So under a self-report system, criminals end up being your most accurate (sometimes most common as well) self-reporters of crimes.

What you need is a system where you do not depend on victims to report the crimes, because that is a system that will be abused by criminals to enact their personal revenge. You need people who recognize crimes as they are, which is in some cases, a system designed based on knowledge of those committing the crime. Not to mention this approach would be proactive instead of reactive. As Reverend Dr. has already said, most of the reports being done within the game are being done out of malice, as an act of retribution.

FalconDance · Apr 19, 2009, 09:35 PM // 21:35

This is getting crazy, folks. You thought it was just names and acronyms? Nope. Yeah, I know we have discussed part of Quimang's name being bleeped out in filter. But I just saw "suce" bleeped out of the word "sucessfully" (yes, misspelled) in All Chat. Curious, I looked it up online and found that in French, its secondary (slang) meaning means a certain sexual act.

Maybe that person should be banned because they used an inappropriate word? Unwitting, to be sure, and in need of a dictionary. But if I'm in an American dist, why is a French word being bleeped out of an English one?

I swear, sometimes this is like playing Scrabble with my mother and her insisting that a dictionary be immediately available before the game board is even set up. Royal PitA!

Fril Estelin · Apr 19, 2009, 09:39 PM // 21:39

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Originally Posted by Fitz Rinley

JNoms anglais sur un serveur anglais.

What's an "English server" please? Excuse my n00b speak, I've only been on the ARPAnet (the real one I mean, not the virtual one) for about 1010 years (that's h4cksp3ach in binary bTw). Apparently speaking the "langue de Molière" does not make your point clearer.

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Fitz Rinley · Apr 19, 2009, 09:41 PM // 21:41

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Originally Posted by LowOiL

Vulgar folks ruin the game for lots of people, and IMHO... it lowers the profit of companies that lose potential customers because lots of folks just don't even bother with putting up with it and never play online games again.

You may be completely sincere in your devotion to a purified and rarified life where blissful and elegant language has thrashed aside all the roughage and weeds. I find such attitudes to almost always be unconsciously planted by the cultural prejudice of the Norman invasion of England in 1066. Any word of Anglo-Saxon heritage is a four letter word and Eeeeevul, while any word of French origin such as manure or intercourse is socially venerable. The animosity toward say the F word would be amusing if that stupid little legend about it being a legal acronym from the 1300s was true. The word has roots that predate the separation if Indo-European languages and runs throughout them in one form or another. Sorry, not buying into the racism merely because it has been officially practiced for a thousand years. And I find that nose in the air, "I-am-educated-above-those-vulgar-Saxon-dogs", and the average working person attitude to be offensive - especially when it is used to power a ban stick.

When I hear someone supplant a quote "bad word" with things like Heqq, Bless me, son-of-a-gun, crap, etc. I always wonder why they are lying to God. We all know what they really meant. The euphamism does not change the reality of their feelings. Or if in their hearts they are telling God what they really mean, why are they lying to the rest of us. Seems to me the greater sin is in the lie that it is not acceptable to be human than honest expression under an ESRB rating that told you what to expect when you purchased the game.

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Originally Posted by Fril Estelin

What's an "English server" please? Excuse my n00b speak, I've only been on the ARPAnet (the real one I mean, not the virtual one) for about 1010 years (that's h4cksp3ach in binary bTw).

When we change from American to International to Korean to European, we refer to them as changing servers. There may very well be more precise ways of speaking about them for the technicians responsible to make them perform. That is the language we use in game to refer to them, however inaccurate that may be. Further, I did not use Cajun for you but for Cthulhu Reborn who stated that language was understood.

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Originally Posted by Savio

You really don't get what ESRB ratings are and how they function. Of course, you also insisted that the U.S. Constitution applies to Arenanet.

Yes, I do. The ESRB is a voluntary program where corporations agree to grant the consumer a set expectation of what level of maturity and kind of behavior may occur while using their product. This exists principally because they wanted to have an industry answer to provide these expectations to potential customers rather than one legislated by the Witchhounds lobbying in DC to eradicate anything that offends them. Now ANet is switching sides to support the tyranny of the Witchhounds.

Further, yes, the rules of my nation apply when you deal with me in my nation. No corporation is more important than a nation state. If you want the business of those in the US then abide by our custom and law in the US. If you do not then get out. Our national sovereignty is not subordinate to anyone else, ever, end of line.

Fril Estelin · Apr 19, 2009, 10:04 PM // 22:04

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Originally Posted by Fitz Rinley

When we change from American to International to Korean to European, we refer to them as changing servers. There may very well be more precise ways of speaking about them for the technicians responsible to make them perform. That is the language we use in game to refer to them, however inaccurate that may be. Further, I did not use Cajun for you but for Cthulhu Reborn who stated that language was understood.

I was actually expecting an answer of that kind, alas. The fact of the matter is: you have absolutely no idea where, geographically, the "American districts" are located. They may well be on a physical hosting servers in Canada or Brazil (I'm simply mentioning this for the example!), or even in a different part of the world (I don't want to burden this thread with such technicalities, but it seems you want to open invisible doors...).

Bien cordialement. (languages are a beautiful part of who we, human beings, are, honestly! you'd be impressed how computer science can help you realise that!)

LowOiL · Apr 19, 2009, 10:11 PM // 22:11

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Originally Posted by Fitz Rinley

Blah blah blah...

When I hear someone supplant a quote "bad word" with things like Heqq, Bless me, son-of-a-gun, crap, etc. I always wonder why they are lying to God. We all know what they really meant. The euphamism does not change the reality of their feelings. Or if in their hearts they are telling God what they really mean, why are they lying to the rest of us. Seems to me the greater sin is in the lie that it is not acceptable to be human than honest expression under an ESRB rating that told you what to expect when you purchased the game.

Again, you can't resist digs at religion... whatever... but I aint' biting, take it to another thread is my best advice. I ain't interested in what your greatest sin is, I am sure it changes day by day, subject by subject... whatever fits your playdoe at the moment.

The ONLY relevant point of your whole post is the rating angle.

I read the Teen rating when I bought the game... I thought it would be fairly safe...

Age 13... I qualify (nearly 4x)... Violence... I can stand chopping up a bad guy or two... That is ALL my box had on it...Just violence, not the crude language that is sometimes coupled with teen ratings... it did say gaming experience may change.. but it never said that 13y/o boys would have to listen to things like teabagging in pre ascalon.

Other factors that come into play, this was my first purchase of an online video game, from the rating I figured this game was fairly safe. I am from a generation that perhaps is ancient to you, but this language is beyond what I believe a kid of the age of 13 should have to endure.

BTW.. I can scan the front of my game box.. there is no strong language warning.

EDIT... here is the warning on my game...

http://i43.tinypic.com/vf9q84.jpg

Fitz Rinley · Apr 19, 2009, 10:33 PM // 22:33

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Originally Posted by LowOiL

Again, you can't resist digs at religion...

You mistake digs at religion. Religion is what binds a cultural frame work together and the word itself is derived from the Latin usage in the 3rd century when the Church replaced the Legion as the binding structure of the Roman world.
I have no problem with religion. I am a student of religion. What I am not is someone who will impose religious expression on others. While I may believe the path I attempt to follow may be better for many others, I do not require it of them. I am not hypocrittical enough to insist others live according to my religion, but I am defiant enough to protect those standards in place nationally for ethical issues.

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The ONLY relevant point of your whole post is the rating angle.
I read the Teen rating when I bought the game... I thought it would be fairly safe...

Age 13... I qualify (nearly 4x)... Violence... I can stand chopping up a bad guy or two... That is ALL my box had on it...Just violence, not the crude language rating you say exist... it did say gaming experience may change.. but it never said that 13y/o boys would have to listen to things like teabagging in pre ascalon.

Other factors that come into play, this was my first purchase of an online video game, from the rating I figured this game was fairly safe. I am from a generation that perhaps is ancient to you, but this language is beyond what I believe a kid of the age of 13 should have to endure.

The ESRB standards can be found at: http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jsp

I think it would be a good idea if these were posted at the beginning of every section that sells video games. The information is available for people to make an informed decision on their purchase.

I agree that there are behaviors in game that I personally find distasteful. Venting occasionally over game challenges is not one of them. I am more irritated by the denigration of people's mothers and other playground standard behavior from our less mature members. (Maturity is not necessarily counted in years of age, but usually accompanies those less experienced with paying bills.) The use of names which are little different in content from those unit mascots underwhich military men have served, the nicknames of planes, of boats, of ships, of teams, of squads, with the human qualities they expressed (pristine or gritty) do not bother me. Nor will I let them change my game experience.

I also was born in the 60s. I am one of the younger members of my guild and alliance.

LowOiL · Apr 19, 2009, 10:50 PM // 22:50

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Originally Posted by Fitz Rinley

The ESRB standards can be found at: http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jsp

I think it would be a good idea if these were posted at the beginning of every section that sells video games. The information is available for people to make an informed decision on their purchase.

I also was born in the 60s. I am one of the younger members of my guild and alliance.

I used that rating when I bought the game.. Here it is..

http://i43.tinypic.com/vf9q84.jpg

(I don't frequent these threads enough to know if posting a picture is allowed or not), but I am pretty sure the URL is allowed.

The rating did not mention strong crude language whatsoever. For that matter, neither did my Factions... don't have a box for NF, so don't know what it says. You need to find another angle. The box rating did not allow one to know that what I was buying would be so crude language wise.

I agree with your suggestion on stores displaying ratings keys maps so parents (and adults) can make more informed decision on game purchases. I did the best I could with what information was allotted to me.

Wish Swiftdeath · Apr 19, 2009, 11:19 PM // 23:19

To be honest, if i had kids that weren't mature/old enough to hear a few swear words/turn off local chat then i wouldn't let them play an online game with strangers. By all means turn off local and team them up with H/h.

Banning people for swearing is just stupid because this is supposed to be a teen game - I don't know of a teenager in secondary school that hasn't heard of swear words.

Banning for excessive swearing would be more reasonable but what would be defined as excessive? I'm not going to pretend I don't swear ingame (sometimes when I screw up a mission for example or lose my survivor).

Yes, some of the conversations are stupid and inane but you can easily turn off local - I mostly speak on guild/team and whisper. I haven't seen anyone swear in trade so I wouldn't think that is a problem (although i don't sit in Kamadan all day).

Tl;dr: Your kids shouldn't be playing with strangers ingame if they can't handle a few swear words, turn off local, it's not like you ever get decent conversation there.

LowOiL · Apr 19, 2009, 11:28 PM // 23:28

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Originally Posted by Wish Swiftdeath

To be honest, if i had kids that weren't mature/old enough to hear a few swear words/turn off local chat then i wouldn't let them play an online game with strangers. By all means turn off local and team them up with H/h.

Banning people for swearing is just stupid because this is supposed to be a teen game - I don't know of a teenager in secondary school that hasn't heard of swear words.

Banning for excessive swearing would be more reasonable but what would be defined as excessive? I'm not going to pretend I don't swear ingame (sometimes when I screw up a mission for example or lose my survivor).

Yes, some of the conversations are stupid and inane but you can easily turn off local - I mostly speak on guild/team and whisper. I haven't seen anyone swear in trade so I wouldn't think that is a problem (although i don't sit in Kamadan all day).

Tl;dr: Your kids shouldn't be playing with strangers ingame if they can't handle a few swear words, turn off local, it's not like you ever get decent conversation there.

Who said I let my kids play? All I said was I didn't care to hide in the dark ashamed of what is displayed on the screen like a seedy /b/ forum. You and I both know we are not talking about just a "few swear words" either, no need to go into detail, but lets at least be honest about it.

bhavv · Apr 19, 2009, 11:58 PM // 23:58

People should only be banned if they cheat / hack, use racism or other kind of prejudice, or abuse other players.

Banning people and guilds over a single swear word is ridiculous.

This game was better before /report and Anets excessive policing. Sometimes, I just think that Anet staff are so bored that they just ban little things for amusement.

If you cant handle reading swear words, you shouldnt be on the internet.

Anet had a great game that they turned into such a mess themselves. The only reason I will be buying GW2 is because it will be free to play, but I can guess that Anet will completely ruin it over a few years, and then announce GW3.

Just my opinion. You dont have to feel the same way that I do.

Fitz Rinley · Apr 20, 2009, 12:13 AM // 00:13

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Originally Posted by LowOiL

I used that rating when I bought the game.. Here it is..

http://i43.tinypic.com/vf9q84.jpg

(I don't frequent these threads enough to know if posting a picture is allowed or not), but I am pretty sure the URL is allowed.

That kind of picture is acceptable. Commercial promotion that does not benefit Guru, or blatant acts would be different. But we have posted pictures in various contests here, examples of TexMod, to show neat drops, etc.

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It did not mention strong crude language whatsoever. For that matter, neither did my Factions... don't have a box for NF, so don't know what it says. You need to find another angle. The box rating did not allow one to know that what I was buying would be so crude language wise.

What this means is that you did not research to find out what the rating fully meant before purchase. You are not alone. I sympathise as I too have gotten things in the past without fully realizing what I was getting into. (Including jobs.) However, I was not permitted to punish the rest of the world for my lack of knowledge and research. Nor, should I be forced to give up any part of my national heritage, a world heritage, to interact with others.
I will Never Allow my personal, religious, political, or artistic expression to be imprisoned just for permission to interact with others. Nor will I stand by and let others be subject to the same. Further, keep in mind this is about the idiocy of ANet in determining to hold people accountable for things that a person cannot have intended to express.
I will use on-line resources or my own extensive library to name my characters. My Assassin is named 獠穸霧. I am not permitted by GW to write that, or even Liáo Xīwù, I must express it as Liao Xiwu. It means (獠) Hunt (a common surname) and (穸霧) a Gravegloom/Death-Mist. I interpret it as Hunter in the Mists. Without the marks, that I am not allowed to have, it could be interpretted as meaning "(part of male anatomy) bathing bite", or "Clearly disturbing noise filth", or "fiercely giggling hoe (garden instrument)". But we already know that a hoe (garden instrument) is a banable word. I research something carefully, and express a name perfectly fitting a Canthan character, and now must wait to be banned because someone who speaks Chinese gets mad when I won't Permasin for them on demand. But for a full list of everything those three syllables could mean see: Liao, Xi, and Wu. I may be convicted for an offense I do not mean, did not choose, actually chose and maintained a file on the Chinese characters I wanted and could not express, and used in complete context of the games theme and plot because of a ban policy that even when effected will not make you happy or eliminate the childish behavior of those whose hormones are still more powerful than their brains. (And if you don't believe me on the file thing ask Falcondance who is a neighbor and has been chiding my anal-retentiveness for years.)

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I agree with your suggestion on stores displaying ratings keys maps so parents (and adults) can make more informed decision on game purchases. I did the best I could with what information was allotted to me.

Most people make decisions based on the information that they could not avoid or that is conveniently in their way enough to notice. To that extent businesses ought to put more effort into making information brief, accurate, and unavoidable when people are trying to decide for a purchase. I suspect we are SOL and need to put out the effort ourselves.

FalconDance · Apr 20, 2009, 12:15 AM // 00:15

For bad/vulgar/distasteful language, FILTER - NORMAL or MAXIMUM If the filter is in place, you need not worry about others seeing/reading anything off color unless you're deliberately tabbing for names, etc.

This thread pertains to the naming policy and the banning of people who may run afoul of said policy by not knowing the acronym to their guild or their character's name means something bad/vulgar/distasteful in another language in which they may or may not be conversant. It is NOT about those individuals who think it's "cute", "kewl" or "sick" to give their characters name that refer graphically to body parts, sexual acts or denigrating to others. The latter group should be banned, period. It could be said they do not have the maturity level to play in public with others.

As to the ERSB rating and the inability of some to grasp the idea of it relating to GW simply because Anet chose the most prevalent content to advertise on the label rather than give the entire pertinent content: if the rating did not include other factors and GW did not include other factors under the rating, they would not have also included the url to the official website with the full explanation of the rating. An informed person, an educated person would then be able to make a decision based on the possible content. And, as this is a global secular game, it is to be expected that not all individuals who play will be absolutely pure of thought or speech.

The concepts of using the language filter and of educating yourself on exactly what a rating means should not be difficult. Most teens understand the idea. Why are some adults having such trouble?

Back to the topic of this thread: the naming policy and the sudden rather over zealous enforcement therein............

Zahr Dalsk · Apr 20, 2009, 12:18 AM // 00:18

This game is supposed to be rated T, I can't imagine why it's rated E.
There's supposed to be a language filter, they should add that some time.
You should be able to change districts if you don't like someone's name and want to get away, they should let people do that.

OH WAIT...

FalconDance · Apr 20, 2009, 12:19 AM // 00:19

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

This game is supposed to be rated T, I can't imagine why it's rated E.
There's supposed to be a language filter, they should add that some time.
You should be able to change districts if you don't like someone's name and want to get away, they should let people do that.

OH WAIT...

giggles maniacally

LowOiL · Apr 20, 2009, 12:21 AM // 00:21

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Originally Posted by bhavv

If you cant handle reading swear words, you shouldnt be on the internet.

Just my opinion. You dont have to feel the same way that I do.

Funny, I have never once had any trouble with any names or any reports... Why do some people have so much trouble? We both know the answer.

The game is not "the internet" it is personal property which you/me sign rights away to use. You may not feel the same way as ANET does about those rules, but you signed the dotted line.

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Originally Posted by Fitz Rinley

What this means is that you did not research to find out what the rating fully meant before purchase.

What was to understand, It was rated T for violence and violence only... just as my picture showed (and your box shows). If it had additional reasons why it was rated T, it would of been listed above/below the violence, but it was NOT.

http://i43.tinypic.com/vf9q84.jpg

One does not assume "on possible content"... The trusted raters give their rating for a reason. It is "possible" the disk had Debby does Denver on it, but the raters are to do their job. If it was to have strong language on it, they were to rate it that way. I understand many game companies want lower ratings and perhaps will lobby for a lower rating so people/parents will make certain decisions on whether to buy or not. Just like some movies want an R rating and certain films don't want an R rating. But I made NO error in my reading of the ESRB rating whatsoever. None.. Nada.. Niltch...

http://i43.tinypic.com/vf9q84.jpg

FalconDance · Apr 20, 2009, 12:38 AM // 00:38

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Originally Posted by LowOiL

The game is not "the internet" it is personal property which you/me sign rights away to use. You may not feel the same way as ANET does about those rules, but you signed the dotted line.

The Terms of Use we all sign(ed):

http://www.guildwars.com/support/leg...-agreement.php

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9. PARENTAL GUIDANCE

While NC Interactive may choose to monitor and take action upon inappropriate game play, chat or links to the Service, it is possible that at any time there may be language or other material accessible on or through the Service that may be inappropriate for children or offensive to some users of any age. NC Interactive cannot ensure that other players will not provide Content or access to Content that parents or guardians may find inappropriate or that any user may find objectionable. NC Interactive does not as a matter of policy pre-screen the content of the materials or communications transmitted by each player.

The "Modified Rules of Conduct" (updated 2 April 2009, btw)

http://www.guildwars.com/support/leg...sofconduct.php

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1. While playing Guild Wars, you must respect the rights of others and their rights to play and enjoy the game. To this end, you may not defraud, harass, threaten, or cause distress and/or unwanted attention to other players. You will not report players maliciously, or cause them to be investigated without reason.

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25. You must abide by the Guild Wars Naming Policy.

The New and Improved Naming Policy (updated 2 April 2009)

http://www.guildwars.com/support/leg...ing_policy.php

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We do not permit names that:

* Have offensive racial, ethnic, or national connotations.
* Reference sexual acts or real life violence.
* Are pornographic.
* Make inappropriate references to human anatomy or bodily functions.
* Reference illegal drugs or activities.
* Reference major religious figures.
* Reference certain real-life people that may cause distress (e.g. Hitler).

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Names restricted by this policy will generally be subject to these restrictions, no matter whether the names are inappropriate in English or any other language.

Fitz Rinley · Apr 20, 2009, 12:45 AM // 00:45

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Originally Posted by LowOiL

Funny, I have never once had any trouble with any names or any reports... Why do some people have so much trouble? We both know the answer.

The game is not "the internet" it is personal property which you/me sign rights away to use. You may not feel the same way as ANET does about those rules, but you signed the dotted line.

When I accepted the EULA it was under the advertised nature of the game. This includes the ESRB. If they have not changed the ESRB of the game they are responsible to ensure they act within the scope of the rating. They are not doing so. They are required by the expectation of the advertised rating to accept crude humor and strong language at the level defined by the ESRB. When they begin punishing people for crude humor or strong language in accord with the ESRB they have committed fraud. When they punish clients for using the word "bite" becuase it means something in slang from a language they do not use then it is more than fraud - it is absolute lunacy, liberal fascism at its best, PC crap falling from the sky.

ESRB is supposed to enforce their ratings. It is time we call them and ensure that they do. If ANet is not willing to abide by the rating they sold the game under then they should be "banned" by ESRB, so to speak.